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From: Tom Bigbee
Sent: Monday, 5/6/2013 1:45 PM
Subject: The Great Assumption

Regarding your post:  Cute children and adorable pets

 

I have been actively reading Five Doves for over four years, the The Anakypto Forum since its inception, and frequenting other “gathering places” to listen and discern.  I have studied the writings and videos of hundreds of gifted folk.  I have seen evil men and read about them in history and verse.  I know how it will all end – at least the final page.  But I wonder if we have made any assumptions?

 

Though never declaring a day, I have pointed out possibilities as I thought I saw patterns or surmised year counts.  I have been disappointed when the days pass and the evil grows.  So I have continued to look for the returning of the groom, the one day that believers in America and the world have all been whispering about “salvation”, the word that is His name – Y’shua (spell it as you may).

 

Then something happened.  After Firstfruits, the very next day, a message came to my soul that I have never heard before.  Not to my mind but to my soul, which is why it took hours of “soul searching” to figure out what the message was.  It hit me quickly and it brought agitation and discomfort that is very rare for me.  “Father, what are you saying to me?”

 

Then it dawned.  What if?  What if we citizens of red, white, and blue have been living an incorrect assumption?  Have we not “known” that the reason this land of “freedom and justice for all” is not mentioned in the future descriptions of the end?  Have we not been taught this country’s population will be decimated by the wedding harpazo, leaving a corpse of a nation ready for consumption by the man of sin?

 

What if the truth of our void in prophecy is something else?  What if the fall of this empire is a just a late stage judgment in the progression to the end?  What if judgment will fall on both the unrighteous lost AND the corpulent, lazy, deaf, and complacent “church” who pledges allegiance to the flag (you know, the one that is posted behind most of our pulpits)?

 

But, aren’t there many who are fit, energetic, hearing, and concerned believers?  Yes, and so there were in late 1930’s Europe.  We have rightly been told of the holocaust of 6 million Jews, but who is telling of the many who also died because they refused to worship the Fuhrer.  Was the story of Corrie ten Boom and family unique?  Who were the many other uncounted who shared their “dying” quarters in the camps?  Estimates vary but there were millions killed who were not Jews.  Were there no righteous believers in that number?  There were more than we can imagine.

“Thousands of Catholic priests and Christian pastors were forced into concentration camps. A special barracks was set up at Dachau, the camp near Munich, Germany, for clergymen. A few survived; some were executed, but most were allowed to die slowly of starvation or disease.” – from: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/NonJewishVictims.html

 

Have I started to doubt the great R&R (resurrection & rapture)?  No!  Have I started to doubt the certainty that our R&R salvation precedes or coincides with the judgment on this country?  Yes!  Maybe it will – and maybe it won’t.  Where did we get this Great Assumption?  Where is it written that we sons of the revolution will be pulled to safety?  Should we be called “The United States of Arrogance”?

 

How many of us have thought for years that we would have been gone by now?  Does anyone really know it will be “this year”?  Could the R&R be 1, 5, or 10 years more – or that many years after the fall and judgment for the “The United Sins of America”?

 

Steve, you stated, “God is just, and HIS JUSTICE WILL NOT SLEEP FOREVER!”, and I agree.  Maybe this nation’s sentencing will morph the creed into “One nation under God’s judgment, with captivity and His justice for all”.

 

Were we a blessed nation?  Absolutely!  So were the Hebrews, but read the scriptures:

 

But they mingled with the nations and learned their practices,

And they served their idols, which became a snare to them.

They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons,

And shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; and the land was polluted with the blood.

Thus they became unclean in their practices, and played the harlot in their deeds.

Therefore the anger of Yahuwah was kindled against His people and He abhorred His inheritance.

Then He gave them into the hand of the nations, and those who hated them ruled over them.

Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were subdued under their power.

Psalms 106:35-42

 

Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.  For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.  Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Romans 1:24-32

 

Tom Bigbee

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