Steve Coerper (10 April 2009)
"To: Mark Copfer "Re:How long will it take" "


 
Dear Brother Mark:
 
     
 
      Some of your comments beg for a response. The problem is not "lack of understanding" -- which to some may sound like a pejorative. Rather, it is differing hermeneutics.
 
      I invite your attention to Isaiah 7:10-16..The Assyrians were attacking Judah, and King Ahaz was afraid they would prevail. Isaiah told the king not to worry, because by the word of the Lord the Assyrians would not succeed. Isaiah invited Ahaz to ask for a sign that this would be fulfilled according to this word, and Ahaz demurred. So Isaiah said there would be a sign: a woman (almah) would bring forth a son who would be called "Immanuel" and before this child was old enough to choose between good an evil (the "age of accountability"), Assyria would be forsaken by both her kings.
 
      Question 1: when was this prophecy fulfilled? (Hint: Ahaz was still alive)
 
      Question 2: when was this prophecy finally fulfilled? (Hint: see Matthew 1:23)
 
      Yes, Pentecost was fulfilled 1977 or so years ago, however, at that fulfillment, we did not see blood or fire or vapor of smoke, OR the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
 
      Similarly, Isaiah 9:6 was "fulfilled" when Jesus came the first time, but the government was not upon His shoulder. Like Joel 2, this prophecy in Isaiah has not yet been FINALLY fulfilled.
 
      John the Baptizer fulfilled Isaiah 40:3 but we have not yet seen the fulfillment of verse 5. Isaiah 61:1-2 was fulfilled up through the proclamation of the acceptable year of the Lord (see Luke 4:17-20) but the FINAL fulfillment, the "day of vengeance of our God" is clearly still future.
 
      Some see the 7 feasts as primarily directed toward national Israel. This isn't rebelliousness or wilfull ignorance, but simply following a pattern. The "church" is a mystery within the overall plan: The ultimate salvation of the sons of Israel (see Romans 11:25-26) will follow the salvation of those Gentiles the Lord chooses to save. Some of us see the plan for national Israel's salvation illustrated in the three spring feasts (which initiate redemption) and the three fall feasts, which consummate the redemption. Within this is the "mystery" of the church, the Bride of Christ.
 
      I've outlined my understanding as it applies to the FINAL fulfillment of Pentecost. Nothing astonishing here, and I don't think it's accurate to characterize my conclusions as the result of "lack of understanding." The harvest at the "last trumpet" (the "wheat harvest") is a possibility, and I think it's likely. But it does not preclude a "barley harvest" for the Bride of Christ.
 
Best,
Steve